Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[davulsukur]

19 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

You have to remember what we are dealing with here.

Rovers offered Philip Moulton (Steve Keans bodyguard) a youth team coaching job, when no more bodyguarding was needed...... enough said

Fit and proper indeed....

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

He brought Venus in as his number 2.

I don't understand the hatred on here for Rovers backroom team, Benson has worked with Raya and Kaminski, 2 keepers that are going from strength to strength, whats not to like about that?

Look at the lads coming from the academy into the first team? It all adds up to having a decent backroom team and not what 1 poster on here wants you to think.

Both keepers went backwards under Benson.

Kaminski's distribution now is significantly worse than when he arrived.

[pomster]

53 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

You have to remember what we are dealing with here.

Rovers offered Philip Moulton (Steve Keans bodyguard) a youth team coaching job, when no more bodyguarding was needed...... enough said

Wasn’t Steve Keans bodyguard Paul Fleck?

[Gav]

19 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Both keepers went backwards under Benson.

Kaminski's distribution now is significantly worse than when he arrived.

Brentford don't seem to think Raya went backwards, hence forking out £3m, I agree with them.

Kaminski has earned a full international call up since he arrived, Belgium too don't think he's gone backwards.

I'll defer to them.

Edited May 19 by Gav

[JBiz]

Just now, Gav said:

Brentford don't seem to think Raya went backwards, I agree with them.

Kaminski has earned a full international call up since he arrived, Belgium too don't think he's gone backwards.

I'll defer to them.

Have to agree Gav, the only place you’ll here specific backroom coaches being dogged is BRFCS. Make of that what you will!

[LeftWinger]

2 minutes ago, Gav said:

Kaminski has earned a full international call up since he arrived, Belgium too don't think he's gone backwards.

I'll defer to them.

No he hasn't.

[JBiz]

21 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Both keepers went backwards under Benson.

Kaminski's distribution now is significantly worse than when he arrived.

I can’t remember you waxing lyrical about Kamiski’s distribution at Copenhagen? 
 

Whilst you’re welcome to this view, to me it simply sounds like an opinion created to enforce another. 

The caveat of Raya getting worse is utterly laughable since he’s essentially now an established premier league player with an international cap.

[Gav]

3 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

No he hasn't.

Wasn't he called up for the Wales world cup game?

[LeftWinger]

7 minutes ago, Gav said:

Wasn't he called up for the Wales world cup game?

Yes, but you don't get a cap for being in the squad.

[martonrover]

23 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Have to agree Gav, the only place you’ll here specific backroom coaches being dogged is BRFCS. Make of that what you will!

I think the important point is that any half decent Head Coach / Manager will want to bring in his own staff.

If the club blocks that, it'll be another desperate dan getting the job.

Add to that the worry of a poor Director of Football appointment creating the same problem.

Here's hoping they surprise / amaze us.

[Miller11]

With a goalkeeper coach, there will be countless people like Benson who can regurgitate what they have learnt on their courses and set up drills and sessions. I think this is fine with young keepers, but a player as established as Kaminski would maybe benefit more from someone who has been there and done it and can act as a mentor.

Over time it seems Benson’s role grew somewhat and during the last few months you’d see him giving instructions to outfield subs and showing players papers during breaks in play.

Anyway, whatever the abilities or otherwise of our current first team coaching set up, I’d prefer a completely clean slate. We are in desperate need of a change and clearing the decks seems wholly sensible. Plus a new manager ought to be bringing in an entire team that share his vision and who they can work with effectively.

[Gav]

26 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Yes, but you don't get a cap for being in the squad.

I never mentioned caps, I was referring to him being called up to the full International squad, which he was.

To say he's gone gone backwards under Benson simply isn't true, wouldn't you agree?

On the wider point, a clean slate would be best in my opinion, especially at the top table, but will Venkys pay up the contracts? Always a stumbling block for this lot.

Edited May 19 by Gav

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[martonrover]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

Oh dear, come on down Larry Grayson.

[JHRover]

Micky mouse appointment it is then.

Let me get this right in my head.

Someone, somewhere has decided we are adopting the sporting director / head coach model.

We are seemingly looking for both at the same time with a view to them then working together, at least for the next couple of years.

Yet the expectation is that we will appoint the head coach first, with the sporting director to follow later.

The expectation is also that the 'majority' of the existing staff will stay on (no surprises there) yet we haven't yet spoken to candidates for sporting director or head coach, neither of whom might want the existing staff.

What is the aim here? To turn the established recruitment process completely on its head?

The way it should be done is a) Appoint Sporting Director b) Work with Sporting Director to appoint Head Coach c) Sporting Director and Head Coach decide who is going to be on the coaching staff.

 

 

[JBiz]

@JHRover and your credentials as CEO for a football club are?

Personally would rather see a head coach decide who he is working with, and I always take LET with a pinch of salt anyway.

 

[roversfan99]

Seems like a regurgitation of what was in the LT yesterday, but it wouldn't bode well to force any new manager to retain most of the staff already here.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[roversfan99]

Typically cryptic and non-committal.

[Mattyblue]

Of course the majority of the staff are staying, they are under contract.

Just like TM was never going anywhere on that horror run last season, when even he sounded like he expected to be sacked - because he was under contract. Indeed he’d still he here now if his deal had been 12 months longer…

[Mercer]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

Think this is very similar to what Sharpe wrote.

IMO, Bayes and Sharpe two of a kind - little insight and wont rock the boat, gave Mowbray an easy ride.

Bayes expects the majority of backroom staff to stay in place - has the guy got any intelligence?  Who would want to work with, IMO, fifth raters like Lowe and Benson.

 

[chaddyrovers]

on the coaching point, we are already without 2 fitness coaches and head of medical services so they will need replacing. Plus I would expect Venus and Lowe will go with Benson staying. 

It will be interesting who we interview in the next few days but I think Farke and Carvalhal will be interview and I think couple more foreign options. I think the Canada national coach John Herdman might be interview and he seemed to done a good job at national team boss there tho managing Championship level is very different. If we can appoint either Farke or Carvalhal as our next head coach then it should be them. They will have demands over budgets cos they will want promotion push here not just settling for mid table mediocre 

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The expectation is also that the 'majority' of the existing staff will stay on (no surprises there) yet we haven't yet spoken to candidates for sporting director or head coach, neither of whom might want the existing staff.

Depends what you class as majority of the existing staff whether that including recruitment and data analysis staff, we already have 3 vacancies on the first team coaching staff already. I think Venus and Lowe will go. 

[Gav]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Typically cryptic and non-committal.

But the facts of the matter are, from 2 people close to the club, we've spoken to no mangers thus far, which fits.

The claim on here, of one potential managerial candidate being shown around the training ground was clearly bullshit, as expected. 

 

Edited May 19 by Gav

[JHRover]

12 minutes ago, JBiz said:

@JHRover and your credentials as CEO for a football club are?

 

 

Probably as good as the people fulfilling the role right now (whoever they are).

You don't need to be a CEO to work out that you appoint down the order of seniority. You don't appoint lower staff and then bring in a boss who might not want them. You appoint the boss and hand him the power to appoint those he is going to be directing.

Pretty basic stuff really.

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, PeteJD13 said:

thats the new director of football sorted then they'll use venus for that and combine his role with parks

Sounds like we have been talking to different candidates for the job according to the website that Pete O'Rourke and Wayne Veysey work for have posted this today

A recruitment source has told Football Insider that Rovers are speaking to several candidates for the director of football role and hope to attract a highly-regarded operator and talent spotter to work alongside a new manager.

Blackburn eye director of football as manager hunt continues - Sources (footballinsider247.com)