Ulrich Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Wasn't his point about the club never being normal since Venky's arrived? That was evident from week one, when they sacked Sam and appointed Kean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gumboots Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Tabula Rasa said: ... [Exit, pursued by bear] [Enter shepherd] ... The Winter's Tale Act 3, Scene 3, William Shakespeare Anyone know where we can get hold of a bear? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone to seed Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Wasn't his point about the club never being normal since Venky's arrived? Yes, it was - I missed that in my haste to post something. I agree we've not been a normal club since the Venkmachine rolled into town, though you could argue that the rot had set in some considerable time before they rocked up. I mean, doesn't anyone else remember the dark noises coming from the Walker Trust about the sustainability of the model that Jack had implemented..sloping shoulders that lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolly blue Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 When you look at Rovers’ retained list it fully illustrates Mowbray’s inability to plan , to think, to develop. I’m not sure where we on “ this journey “...but we are currently without leaders, without hungry young men, without players with the ability to play out from the back ( his idea of progress ) , without structure .... ...we continue to sink..and eagerly wait for return of Ayala ...and maybe Bennett running the dressing room....so much to look forward to ....😳 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone to seed Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Dolly blue said: When you look at Rovers’ retained list it fully illustrates Mowbray’s inability to plan , to think, to develop. I’m not sure where we on “ this journey “...but we are currently without leaders, without hungry young men, without players with the ability to play out from the back ( his idea of progress ) , without structure .... ...we continue to sink..and eagerly wait for return of Ayala ...and maybe Bennett running the dressing room....so much to look forward to ....😳 Stop! You're depressing me ! Don't you know we are already on course for the wettest May on record? 😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said: Stop! You're depressing me ! Don't you know we are already on course for the wettest May on record? 😳 😭🥶😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldEwoodBlue Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Mowbray Out ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TimmyJimmy Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts. We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings. That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it. Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past. What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not. Edited May 22, 2021 by TimmyJimmy 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tina Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Or a Speedie. Never in this comfort zone. Interesting when the fans come back. Brentford are really vocal. We'll probably fight with each other like the old days of snakehead and crybaby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TimmyJimmy said: I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts. We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings. That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it. Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past. What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not. Exactly, nice lads, nice slow sideways football, nice training ground banter etc. Nice comfort zone for every one to sit in the middle of the division whilst the gaffer rotates to keep everyone happy. Best job in the division for any bog average yes man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, tomphil said: Exactly, nice lads, nice slow sideways football, nice training ground banter etc. Nice comfort zone for every one to sit in the middle of the division whilst the gaffer rotates to keep everyone happy. Best job in the division for any bog average yes man. sooner or later it`s going to bite him on the arse and we`ll end up in a relegation battle,then he`ll suddenly rediscover his honour and depart halfway through the season with plaudits from his fan club on facebook and in the telegraph☹️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tina Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Has he gone? Can I return? Sad. Isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 hours ago, TimmyJimmy said: I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts. We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings. That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it. Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past. What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not. Our dressing room is full of players who don't question TM, weak mentally as strength of mind speaks and says when they think a boss is wrong. He surrounds himself with yes men and anyone who disagress gets shunted. Tm is a pathetic man, he cannot take critique as demonstrated by the comments he makes from the fans. He is no leader and until the muppet goes we will continue to sign 'yes' men and weak players mentally. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days. Has anyone heard anything more on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted May 24, 2021 Backroom Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 11:07, TimmyJimmy said: I think the problem with Mowbray's dressing room is that it's full of 'nice' people. Competitive sport needs spikey personalities, an edge, a bit of ruthlessness and once in a while outright badness. We need grit in the oyster, he's assembled a team of boy scouts. We're going to win nothing if he continues to buy guys who are in touch with their feelings. That in a nutshell is why TM will never build a team capable of promotion. We need a couple of evil sods like a Batty or a Keeley. Not going to happen though is it. Flat caps, rattles and "play up you blues" is a Roy of the Rovers fantasy of a bygone era, the sport of today is a totally different beast and Mowbray is lost in the past. What holds good for players holds good for managers. Think of spikey managers like Hughes or Warnock, think Ferguson or Souness and compare to TM, who's going to win something and who's not. YES YES YES! Think of the dressing room Hughesy cultivated, full of hard bastards and several international captains. Savage, Mokoena, Nelsen, Samba, Warnock, Bellamy, Roberts. All complementing a squad already containing Friedel, Short, Flitcroft, Todd, Reid, Neill, Tugay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 8 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days. Has anyone heard anything more on it? Without actually coming out and saying 'nah nah na nah nah - i'm staying and there is fook all you can do about it' to the majority who've had enough of his self serving tripe. The guy himself has pretty much told everybody by his actions and statements that he's going nowhere. The stuff he's been doing with the squad rubber stamps this. I think he'd have to be surgically removed from his Ewood comfort zone. Along with his little group and to the cost of several million quid. So anyone still clinging to anything, which was only ever based on assumption wherever its come from, needs to take the top off the coffee pot and have a good old sniff. Prepare the groundhog instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, tomphil said: Without actually coming out and saying 'nah nah na nah nah - i'm staying and there is fook all you can do about it' to the majority who've had enough of his self serving tripe. The guy himself has pretty much told everybody by his actions and statements that he's going nowhere. The stuff he's been doing with the squad rubber stamps this. I think he'd have to be surgically removed from his Ewood comfort zone. Along with his little group and to the cost of several million quid. So anyone still clinging to anything, which was only ever based on assumption wherever its come from, needs to take the top off the coffee pot and have a good old sniff. Prepare the groundhog instead. We're getting relegated aren't we? 😫😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallydally Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 12 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: Let's hope the (now probably very old) rumours of Mowbray leaving end of May are true. We have pretty much 5 more days. Has anyone heard anything more on it? There's nothing to hear. Mowbray is going nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I tend to agree that he is going nowhere, which is why the badly advised crew are still so wide of the mark, it is untrue. Assuming they still know the square root of FA about football, someone must have advised them that keeping him, is the way forward, yet I don't know of any poster on here, who thinks that is good advice. Yet again, they have someone advising them, who is more interested in their own agenda, than the long term good of the club.. Will they ever listen and will the club ever make any proper progress with these owners? Answers on a postcode, but don't bother sending it to India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue blood Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, JohnGo said: Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land? You mean two blokes who have had their clubs doing significantly better than us in a fraction of the time spent at the club? Am happy with the next Eddie Howe too but any competence - old school or new - would be very welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted May 25, 2021 Moderation Lead Share Posted May 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, JohnGo said: Who should take over, and don’t rattle out the same old boring names, Warnock, McCarthy, etc, etc. Where’s the next Eddie Howe who’s going to take us to the promised land? What’s wrong with managers that have better track records than the guy in the hot seat who’s underachieved so much? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt83 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) I’d even settle for somebody random out of the phone book that won’t talk as much shite as Tonebola. Mowbray hadn’t exactly set a high bar. Well bank rolling league one in order to force our way past the mighty Shrewsbury to a runners up position aside. Edited May 25, 2021 by matt83 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Mick McCarthy lost 3 of his 22 games at Cardiff. They'd lost 6 on the bounce before he went in What is old or boring about that? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, K-Hod said: What’s wrong with managers that have better track records than the guy in the hot seat who’s underachieved so much? Warnock isnt going to leave Boro for us. Dont forget the mess that after during the summer when he was set to take over before we appointed Coyle. Nothing wrong with looking at all different options out there. There is good options out there we could get if we had vacancy 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: Mick McCarthy lost 3 of his 22 games at Cardiff. They'd lost 6 on the bounce before he went in What is old or boring about that? Is he going to Cardiff to come here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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